Classic Vehicle Log Book trial

Transport for NSW and Roads and Maritime Services have developed a Classic Vehicle Log Book trial. A classic vehicle is 30 years of age or older.

About the trial

The log book trial allows for vehicles operating under the Historic Vehicle Scheme and Classic Vehicle Scheme to be used for 60 days of general use (ie maintenance and personal use) each year, outside of club organised events. Each day of general use must be recorded in a log book issued at a registry or service centre.

The log book trial has been extended and will operate for a further two years from 1 October 2017 until 30 September 2019.

Further evaluation will be completed during this period.

 

Questions and answers

General

  • The main difference between the two schemes are:

      Vehicles (including trailers) under the Historic Vehicle Scheme must:
    • must be 30 years of age or older as from the year of manufacture
    • must be as close to original condition as possible, with no modifications except for safety features such as seat belts and turn indicators or period accessories and options, if desired
    • To establish or renew, a Historic Vehicle Declaration, signed by an official of a recognised and participating historic vehicle club and not greater than 42 days old. Please note that a vehicle safety inspection report must be presented if the club is less than two years old.
      Classic vehicles under the Classic Vehicle Scheme (CVS) are:
    • 30 years of age or older
    • up to 3.5 tonnes Gross Vehicle Mass
    • not being a plant vehicle or trailer, and
    • complying with the relevant NSW vehicle standards.

    Classic Vehicles must be inspected by an Authorised Examiner and be issued a passed Inspection report to confirm that the vehicle is suitable for safe use and complies with the relevant NSW vehicle standards (including the permissible modifications as detailed in Vehicle Standards Information No. 6 Light vehicle modifications or the Compliance Certificate, if required)

    • To establish a conditional registration, an Authorised Unregistered Vehicle Inspection report must be presented. This will consist of a Safety Check, Identity Check and Design Check. (previously known as a 'blue slip')
    • To renew a conditional registration, a Safety Check report must be presented. (previously known as a 'pink slip')

  • The log book trial is to be reviewed after two years of operation, that is, in October 2017.

    Roads and Maritime will invite Clubs, members and other interested parties such as NSW Police Force and the CTP Insurer in July 2017 to provide comment on the operation of the log book trial.

    A decision about the continuation of the log book initiative will be made in the light of the comments received.

  • It is not compulsory for clubs to participate in the log book trial. However, recognised clubs must notify Roads and Maritime if they want to participate. Roads and Maritime will maintain a list of participating clubs.

    Clubs' Responsible Persons may notify their participation to Roads and Maritime by email at Historic.vehicle.logbook.trial@rms.nsw.gov.au.

  • There will be no change to the Historic Vehicle Scheme or Classic Vehicle Scheme. There is nothing that the club or Approved Organisation needs to do. Members of existing recognised clubs or Approved Organisations continue to be able to use their vehicles in club organised events and maintenance.

    Members of existing recognised clubs that do not participate in the log book trial may choose to join or form another recognised participating club or Approved Organisation, and then opt-in to the log book trial.

  • Members of participating recognised clubs or Approved Organisations may opt-in to the log book trial. To opt in, the registered vehicle operator or their representative must attend a registry or service centre and present:

    • Proof of identity such as a NSW driver licence
    • The current Certificate of Conditional Registration (if available)
    • The current Certificate of Approved Operations (if available)
    • A completed Change of Records (PDF, 223Kb) to have the vehicle's conditions updated.

    The following condition will be added to the vehicle's existing conditions:

    • 'Classic Log Book – May be used for 60 days per year subject to log book conditions.

    Operators of existing conditionally registered historic or classic vehicles will be issued:

    • Certificate of Conditional Registration
    • Certificate of Approved Operations, with the updated conditions
    • Classic Vehicle Log Book Trial form.

    There is no cost to existing members that choose to opt into the log book trial.

  • You can use the log book once it is issued. The log book will be aligned with the annual term of the conditionally registered vehicle. The allocation of days will apply as shown in this table:

    Remaining registration Allocated log book days
    Up to three months 15
    Over three and up to six months 30
    Over six and up to nine months 45
    Over nine months 60
  • You will first need to join a recognised historic vehicle club (PDF, 400Kb) or Approved Organisation for vehicles under the Classic Vehicle Scheme.

    If you want to opt-in to the log book trial under the Historic Vehicles Scheme or Classic Vehicle Scheme, you will need to join a recognised historic vehicle club or Approved Organisation that is participating in the log book trial.

    If you are converting from full registration to conditional registration, you must surrender the full registration and number plates. You may be eligible for a refund of the unused portion of the vehicle tax or registration charge. Please note that a cancellation fee applies. You may also have the full registration number plates reserved at the registry or service centre or issued to a different vehicle for a fee. Distinctive historic vehicle number plates or conditional registration number plates are issued with the conditional registration for a fee. You may also be eligible for a Compulsory Third Party (CTP) insurance premium refund. Please contact your CTP insurer for more information.

  • As per the current logbook rules, maintenance days must be captured in the log book.

  • No unless there is an agreement between the club and its members to notify the club. But the intention of the log book trial was these maintenance days fall under 'personal usage' and therefore outside of club events.

  • If the return journey does not fall within the club organised event then it will need to be captured as part of the 60 days under the logbook.

For recognised clubs and Approved Organisations

  • As part of determining their rules, recognised clubs and Approved Organisations may decide to participate in the log book trial. Once a decision has been made, the Responsible Person can notify Roads and Maritime Services by email at: Historic.vehicle.logbook.trial@rms.nsw.gov.au.

  • By checking the Roads and Maritime Recognised Historic Vehicle Club list (PDF, 400Kb) or checking the Classic Vehicle Scheme page.
  • Roads and Maritime has the details of recognised clubs' and Approved Organisation Responsible Persons. Notification to participate will only be accepted from the Responsible Person.
  • The club's Responsible Person should notify Roads and Maritime by email at: Historic.vehicle.logbook.trial@rms.nsw.gov.au, and the list will be updated.
  • Yes. This means that from the date the club is removed from the participation list, no further club members may opt-in. However, log books already issued to club members continue to be valid.
  • Yes. However, only club members with NSW conditional registration may opt-in to the log book trial.
  • Roads and Maritime does not require recognised clubs or Approved Organisations to manage any aspect of log books. However, clubs or an Approved Organisation may choose to introduce their own arrangements under their respective club rules.
  • There are no changes to vehicle standards. Clubs should continue to accept vehicles under the current arrangements.
  • No. Recognised clubs or Approved Organisations that decide not to participate continue to operate under the current arrangements.
  • No. Recognised clubs may notify their participation at any time during the two year log book trial period.

For recognised club members

  • To opt in, the registered vehicle operator or their representative must attend a registry or service centre and present:

    • Proof of identity such as a NSW driver licence
    • The current Certificate of Conditional Registration (if available)
    • The current Certificate of Approved Operations (if available)
    • A completed Change of Records (PDF, 223Kb) to have the vehicle's conditions updated.

    The following condition will be added to the vehicle's existing conditions:

    • Classic Log Book – May be used for 60 days per year subject to log book conditions.

    Operators of existing conditionally registered historic or classic vehicles will be issued:

    • Certificate of Conditional Registration
    • Certificate of Approved Operations, with the updated conditions
    • Classic Vehicle Log Book Trial form.
  • No. The trial only applies to club members who have a vehicle registered in the NSW conditional registration scheme.
  • There is no cost to opt-in to the log book trial.
  • There are no increased costs for conditional registration or CTP insurance during the period of the log book trial. A review will be conducted on many aspects of the trial and costs will be included. A decision as to whether an increase in costs will apply to those that opt-in to the trial will be made subject to the outcome of the review.
  • No. Only one log book will be issued per historic vehicle or classic vehicle.
  • Yes. You are eligible to apply for a log book for each vehicle you have registered under the Historic Vehicle Scheme and/or the Classic Vehicle Scheme as long as the respective recognised club or Approved Organisation is participating in the log book trial.
  • See Historic vehicles for information on how to apply for conditional registration under the Historic Vehicle Scheme.

    See Classic vehicles for information on how to apply for conditional registration under the Classic Vehicle Scheme.

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